» ‘Black to the Mac’

Once again I join John Gruber on The Talk Show to discuss Martha Stewart, prison booze, baseball and the perils of thumb sucking for German children.

And Apple, too, I think. Somewhere in there. Maybe toward the end.

Added: Turns out John and I mispronounce “Lodsys” throughout this episode. It should be “lod-sis” not “load-sis”. The unfortunate people at Loadsys Consulting (with an “a”), who are not at all evil, have apparently suffered from mistaken mis-association. Apologies for the mispronunciation.